Inspired by the Marv Wolfman and George Perez era of the New Teen Titans, I've drawn a series of drawings imagining the characters under a contemporary context. In other words, what would this classic team look like in today's modern society? Fourth in this series is Richard "Dick" Grayson AKA Robin.
When Marv Wolfman and George Perez started their now-iconic Teen Titans run, it was very clear that they had a plan for Richard Grayson. Once the wise-cracking sidekick to the Batman, it was decided that the Boy Wonder would grow up. Dick went away to college and began distancing himself from his mentor. Their relationship became strained and he spent more time in New York City with the Titans than in Gotham City. Rather than taking orders from Batman, Robin began calling the shots for the very first time in his career. He became the leader of the Teen Titans and found a new family for himself. He even began falling for his fellow Titan Starfire. However, his relationships and tenure as the leader of the Titans began slipping away. Dick started questioning himself and became increasingly antagonistic towards the others. He was especially cruel towards Starfire. He ignored her at every turn and even refused to talk to Wonder Girl about what he was going through. Dick was at odds with himself. He struggled with his identity, was he Batman's sidekick or could he be truly independent? Ultimately, Dick decided to retire from the Titans and gave up being Robin. In the meantime, Wonder Girl became the new (successful) leader of the Titans and Batman found a new Robin in the form of Jason Todd. The world had moved on. To move with it, Dick adopted a new codename and a new look. From then on, he was Nightwing.
Dick Grayson continues to be one of the most enduring characters from DC Comics. He's the clear favourite in most adaptations when it comes to who wears the mantle of Robin. This means that he's been fairly timeless. He's been easily modernized for each subsequent generation. At his core, Dick is a responsible young man who just wants to make a difference in this world. In other words, he wants to do good. Even though he's been taught to think logically, he often finds himself at odds with his teachings because he naturally wants to lead with his heart. This also means that he often has some rather tumultuous relationships -- poor Barbara and Koriand'r have had to put up with a lot because of this guy.
I've drawn Dick a few times before, so it's always a challenge to try something new. In drawing him here, I went with the New 52 Robin look they had for him. It's remarkably simple yet complex at the same time. I rather like it. It's a nice modernization of the classic look and it really suits him. It's certainly more practical than his pixie shorts. Of course, I do like that they stuck with the Nightwing mask. It really works for him.
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Excellent Robin redesign, while I like the use of black in his uniform from Young Justice, I like how ya managed to keep the green from his classic outfit & make it work for him. Definitely easier to take him seriously without the elf shoes & green speedo XD...Though I still like to think of that outfit as canon sometimes so Kory & the other titans can have a good laugh over old Batman Family photos of him in it XD...Or maybe he only wears it in private for Kory's sake when she's feeling frisky >;3
I like Starfire & Grayson as a couple big time, & definitely think they compliment each other well, & that in general grayson is more interesting when he's not an emo loner who pushes people away like Batman (one of my fave moments in YJ is when he flat out said he still wanted to be a hero, but did not want to be Batman anymore). However, I also don't like the idea of Kory pining for him forever like they had going on for a while, so if push comes to shove & the writers don't have it in them to put them together, I'm perfectly cool with Kory moving on with her life & finding someone else...Just preferably not Harper or Todd ( maybe I'd be less harsh on Harper if he didn't seem like such a fratboy in the new 52 & was a bit more serious, but I dunno).
In your opinion, who'd make good alternate potential love interests for Starfire besides Dick & Roy?
I'm not sure if you read the artist comment for this piece, since I indicate that this is not a redesign. This is Dick's canon Robin costume from the New 52.
Also, the booty-shorts aren't for Starfire. They're for Batman. We all know the Bat Family boys are all just a bunch of closet cases.
I'm the opposite of you with Starfire and Dick as a couple, largely due to how unhealthy and toxic the relationship has been. In the early days, Dick was emotionally abusive towards Kory to the point where he would ignore her and lash out at her. This abuse really hurt her, which is something no woman should experience in a relationship based on trust and respect. As their relationship wore on, Kory lost her sense of self and began defining herself exclusively through her relationship with Dick. Of course, Kory was never his #1 and her final years in the Pre-Flashpoint continuity saw her trapped in a constant love triangle. Dick was a jerk towards Kory, often stringing her along without ever giving her any form of commitment. He played her constantly. If they were really meant for each other, there would never be any question of whether he liked her or Babs better. There has been a lot of criticism of Starfire and Dick's relationship, largely taking aim at Dick's abusiveness. As such, I really can't get behind something that is so toxic. Whether physical or emotional, no woman should ever endure abuse and I will never support something that endorses the idea that a woman should endure that out of some misguided sense of "love." If you ask me, it always seemed like Dick used Starfire for sex. The way the writers wrote the relationship, they made it abundantly clear that Dick cared for Starfire on a physical level (as evidenced by the constant gratuitous post-coital scenes we had to wretch our way through). Bat writers, meanwhile, typically portrayed his love for Barbara as being more emotionally and intellectually satisfying.
Despite Roy's childishness and frat boy persona, he treats Starfire extremely well in the New 52. Their relationship is remarkably healthy and mature. He doesn't abuse her emotionally like Dick did and he's very honest with his feelings towards her. It's quite refreshing actually to see Starfire in a relationship where she's not some codependent victim trapped in a cycle of defining herself through men.
When it comes to alternate love interests for Starfire, I like the notion that Tamaranians wouldn't define themselves sexually. As such, she'd be more open to pursuing relationships with women. It would be interesting to see her with Donna Troy or any number of the Amazons (or even Power Girl -- a total closet lesbian if you ask me). On the male front, I always thought she and Cyborg would be kind of cute together and she and Martian Manhunter could also be a very captivating alien couple.
I thought I had, sorry for missing that, if this is his redesigned look I guess that means its what he wore in his retconned past?
Oh please, just because Bruce keeps taking in dark haired teenage boys with similar acrobatic & martial skillsets & putting them in colorful costumes while pushing away all his girlfriends doesn't necessarily mean...."connects the dots"....O_O....Oh myyyy...."Mind blown" XD
Maybe my opinion of the pairing will change as I work my way through the titan omnibuses, but I've enjoyed the pairing since I first viewed the cartoon series so i know it can work if written well, & I've seen her & Dick get along well in the comics...Though I have seen where I believe they finally called the quits for good & I admit Dick truly was a total dick to Kory in how it all ended >_<...I hate it when writers jerk around with superhero romances like that for drama's sake.
Bisexual Starfire eh? Could be interesting "hides blush at the thought of Kory & Donna together." As for male love interests, Martian Manhunter might be hard considering his vulnerability to fire & Starfire being a solar powered warrior princess and all, but I myself have tinkered around with the idea of Kory & Cy hooking up, both being long time titans, tough as nails, & sci-fi themed, though as another friend pointed out Cy being half machine could be difficult for a physical relationship, depending on how much flesh he has left or if he's biomechanical in nature now (an interesting notion the Justice League War movie brought up...Hell, even a crappy movie can have a one good idea lol). Not trying to be crude here I swear, just saying that its something to address if they were to be romantically involved. That issue aside, it could be interesting to see something develop between them, maybe Cy harboring feelings for Kory but never having acted on them due to low self-esteem, until Kory finally confronts him about it or even makes the first move herself. What do you think?
I'm not sure how far you've gotten with the Titans omnibuses, but the emotional abuse kicks in right around the time Terra joins the team (which is around the middle of the second omnibus). That's also around the time that Wally also starts getting really antagonistic towards Raven, to the point that he gets really nasty with her. It becomes almost unbearable to have to read through Dick and Wally's malicious actions. Thankfully, Donna is there to provide support. Without her, I doubt the Titans would have ever stayed together and I'm sure Starfire would have been even more of an emotional cutter.
The innate problem with Dick Grayson is that he'll always be stuck in a permanent love triangle between Starfire and Barbara Gordon. Batman writers ship him with Babs, while Titans writers ship him with Starfire. This inevitably makes him come across as a two-timing jerk who can't make up his mind. Truthfully, he doesn't deserve either woman. With the New 52 giving Starfire a chance at happiness outside of having to be defined by her relationship with Dick, it really allows her to grow as a character and not be so tied down by one single relationship. While I may be a hopeless romantic, I'm also a realist and understand what constitutes a happy relationship. No woman should ever settle for being second-fiddled.
I don't think Starfire would label herself as bisexual though. That would be a label created by humans. It's pretty obvious that the people of Tamaran aren't prudish individuals who cling into archaic labels and Puritan ideals. As such, I doubt Starfire would appreciate being given any kind of label. She would see love as love, regardless of whether it's between same sex partners or opposite sex partners. We really should look at Starfire as an alien whose culture is the opposite of ours.
As for Cyborg and Starfire, I don't think his biology would really be a stumbling block for the pair. After all, he can just get a vibrator attachment and it'll all be good. After all, lesbians don't need man bits to be fulfilled physically. After all, Scarlet Witch carried on a marriage with a glorified vacuum cleaner, so Starfire should be able to have one with someone who is at least half-man.